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440 | What’s Your School Known For? (And Why That Matters More Than Your Ads)

Podcast Description

In Episode 440 of School Owner Talk, Duane Brumitt and Shihan Allie Alberigo tackle a question that sounds simple—but quietly determines how easy (or hard) it is to grow your school:

What is your school known for in your town?

Because here’s the truth: better ads don’t fix a fuzzy identity. Ads amplify what already exists. So if your message is unclear, your marketing just spreads that lack of clarity faster—and you end up attracting the wrong families, competing on price, or feeling like you’re pushing a boulder uphill.

Duane and Allie break down the three main “buckets” schools fall into (transformation, community, performance), how to figure out which one you should lead with, and a practical “20-minute clarity exercise” to help you define your message, back it up with proof, and run it consistently.

Key Takeaways

• Ads amplify what’s already there. If your message is fuzzy, your ads spread fuzz faster.
• Being “known for” isn’t your style or your art. It’s the shortcut story parents tell about you.
• Don’t be a “wandering generality.” Duane references Zig Ziglar: you want to be a meaningful specific.
• Most schools fit into three buckets:

• Transformation (confidence, focus, leadership, behavior)
• Community (belonging, family vibe, culture)
• Performance (competition, high-level skill, athletic results)

• You can deliver all three, but you can’t market all three equally. Pick one to lead with, then drill into it.
• Clarity helps you “sift, sort, and screen” the right families—and repel the wrong fit.
• Your testimonials and reviews tell you the truth. Listen for repeated words and themes that show what people actually value.
• Your message must match your culture. If your staff behavior and teaching style don’t align with what you claim to be known for, your brand becomes confusing.
• Consistency wins. Changing your message every month trains your community to ignore you.

Action Steps for School Owners

1. Ask 10 parents what your school is known for. Don’t lead them. Just ask: “What are we known for?” Then listen for patterns.
2. Ask 3–5 people in the community who don’t train with you. Wear your apparel, ask politely, and treat it like research: “Have you heard of our school? What have you heard?” (Duane even suggests a small thank-you gift card.)
3. Choose your primary bucket: transformation, community, or performance. You can still deliver all three, but decide what you want to lead with.
4. Run the 20-minute clarity exercise.

• Step 1: Gather the wins. Pull your best texts, emails, reviews, and success stories.
• Step 2: Circle repeated words/themes. (Or use AI to help spot patterns.)
• Step 3: Pick one primary promise. Example: “We build confident kids” or “We forge future leaders.”
• Step 4: Pick one proof. Choose one real thing that makes the promise believable: a system, a ritual, a program, a story, or a measurable result.

5. Turn it into one messaging sentence—and put it everywhere. Use it on your website, in your intro script, in your first 30 days of parent communication, and in staff language.
6. Make it part of your weekly rhythm. Duane’s example: “How are we forging future leaders this week?” Then tie that identity to what each program is focusing on.
7. Audit for brand mismatch. If you’re a transformational school but your teaching style feels like a Navy SEAL bootcamp—or you’re a performance school but your culture is goofy and unstructured—the disconnect will cost you retention.
8. Run it consistently for a few months before you tweak it. Don’t change your identity every time you get bored. Let it resonate with staff and families.

Additional Resources Mentioned

• Zig Ziglar: “Don’t be a wandering generality. Be a meaningful specific.”
• Joe Polish / Genius Network: “Sift, sort, and screen” (attract the right people, repel the wrong fit).
• Examples of performance-first schools: Herb Perez (performance-led identity, while still delivering transformation/community).
• Messaging example from Duane: “We are forging future leaders.”
• Parent perception training: Helping parents learn how to “see” confidence, focus, and leadership on the floor (credit mentioned: Kenrik Cleaveland).